Monday, July 24, 2023

Re: Temporary failure when sending emails to this mailing list

Me, personally, I have blocked all email from .us domains.
I know that there are some emails from .us that are legitimate,
but after doing so the amount of Spam I have to deal with
dropped dramatically. In my experience 99.9999% of
emails from .us are SPAM.
You might want to invest in another email address.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, at 4:20 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2023-07-24, Jay F. Shachter <jay@m5.chicago.il.us> wrote:
>>
>> Centuries ago, Nostradamus predicted that Polarian would write on Sun Jul 23 21:44:34 2023:
>>>
>>> I believe I have discussed this before, but when I email any openbsd
>>> mailing list (or email address) I get the "451 Temporary failure,
>>> please try again later."
> ...
>>> Although my emails eventually go through after about 20-40 minutes
>>> of waiting, it is still incredibly annoying about the length of time
>>> I have to wait for them to be delivered.
>
> Once you have successfully sent mail once from an IP, it will be allowed
> straight past the spamd greylisting for a period of time.
>
>> Are you sure that users of gmail and outlook don't have the same
>> problem? If you're sure that they don't, it is most likely because
>> the SMTP server at mail.openbsd.org has put them in its whitelist.
>
> Either that or mail is sent often enough from their servers to
> openbsd.org that they tend to bypass spamd most of the time.
>
>> You didn't even mention the worst of it. The first few times you
>> connect to mail.openbsd.org, the system administrator insults you.
>>
>> Here is a verbatim quote from an early SMTP session between my
>> computer and mail.openbsd.org:
>>
>> 220 mail.openbsd.org ESMTP mail.openbsd.org; Wed Jul 12 12:55:35 2023
>> HELO m5.chicago.il.us
>> 250 Hello, spam sender. Pleased to be wasting your time.
>> MAIL FROM:<jay@m5.chicago.il.us>
>> 250 You are about to try to deliver spam. Your time will be spent, for nothing.
>> RCPT TO:<majordomo@openbsd.org>
>> 250 This is hurting you more than it is hurting me.
>> DATA
>> 451 Temporary failure, please try again later.
>
> Nothing to do with the sysadmin. See /usr/src/libexec/spamd/spamd.c.
>
>> I almost didn't join this mailing list when I saw that. But then I
>> thought -- Why should I deprive myself of this mailing list, because
>> the system administrator of mail.openbsd.org is an a.....e?
>
> I think you should retract that statement.
>
>
>
> --
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