Sunday, July 07, 2024

Re: (boring) why is KEEPKERNELS unset and obj gets cleaned?

On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 02:24:40PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
> On Jul 07 11:33:30, anonloli@autistici.org wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 06:08:20PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
> > > > if you want to only build a kernel, go in the right directory and build
> > > > only a kernel :-)
> > >
> > > More importantly, go read the entirety of https://www.openbsd.org/faq/
> > > before poluting this list with your retarted crap.
> >
> > I'm confident that what you're quotting isn't what I'm looking for
>
> Exactly. You are confident that the FAQ is not something you should read,
> while https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Bld is exactly what you should
> read. That is precisely the problem.
>

No, I meant you and the other person are responding to something that has
nothing to do with what you 2 are saying
If you were to read all of the emails in the thread for 1st to last, you
would've seen that I mentioned that I not only read but also followed
that link as well as release(8).

And as I'm building EVERYTHING (src, sys, xenocara, kernel), and complained
about object files IN GENERAL, your and the other person's reply isn't helpful,
especially since I'm proposing/discussing a solution to the object files, or at

least looking for a professional respond, which I kindof got from 1 person, but
they didn't explain the "you have to be 100% confident date is GOOD, but it's
never 100% good", which problem I have already acknowledged, so they are
wasting words, and so are you, not me.

Yes, I maybe have a little problem in expressing my feelings/thoughts, but you
can't tell me that you read this entire thread, because if you did, you
wouldn't be annoying in repeating stuff that I've already acknowledged and
started talking about something else entirely.

Is the subject title corresponding to the proposal/discussion of object file
absolute versioning/verification? No, because the subject has evolved..

I'm posting this to the list because in my last email to the list (which I
didn't realize you posted off-list I'm sorry but it's too late as I have to
correct my own email) I didn't express myself trully

Perhaps now I've expressed myself truthfully, and your ignorance in reading
threads and replying to them like you know better.

I am not an expert in OpenBSD nor have 100% perfect expressioning, but I'm not
stupid and you can't be telling me that you read everything that I wrote and
are giving a solution, because you're not, you're wasting my time (and other
people's time) by not reading.
If you're not interested in an thread, don't read half of it and respond, just
don't respond at all


Now when it comes to polluting the list, I don't think I'm the one polluting it..
sure I can work on my expressions, but there are certain parts of OpenBSD that
are laughable, and that is directly connected to it's contributors.
Of course you can have 20 years of programming experience, but if you're not a
critical thinker, your OS will still be lacking something.
I'm not here to laugh at OpenBSD as much as I'm here to try and contribute
something.
I want to become a tester for an audio bug which has been in OpenBSD for years
for one of my motherboards.

Take this as an insult if you will, but if I were on your position, I would
not, because I know that nothing is perfect, and that even a big fool can be
right about some things.
You're talking to a guy who installed GNU/Arch Linux over 30 times, just
because the documentation was broken for OpenZFS at the time... did I document
it? sadly not...


I'm sorry if I came out as an asshole, but in my experience, those kinds of
people contribute the most to the world, because they are direct, and politicts
and other social norms don't get in the way of them achieving superior
progress for some project or what-not, because it's not individuals that
matters as much as the project that matters, in my opinion.. I might be wrong.
Take Terry Davis as an half-example.
Then take Code Of Conducts as an example, and their ineffectivness.

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