On 2023-03-24, Kaya Saman <kayasaman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the responses. Somehow they ended up in my Gmail SPAM
> folder?? I don't think I've got them all as I feel I'm missing one :-(
You can check mailing list archives if wanted.
> In my area.... you would think being a large City that there would be
> more options available but I am down to around 5 providers, 2 of which
> are cable based so mainly deal in TV over IP stuff.... currently I'm
> just about to sign on with G-Net as really outside of BT there is no one
> else around that I can see as being suitable :-(
Cities are often harder to put fibre infrastructure into than rural areas.
> Stu, could you elaborate a little on what you mean about the technology
> being used? From my own experience in DSL and having a Zyxel DSLAM (to
> play with - yeay to nppd in OpenBSD haha) there are different profiles
> that you can put users on.
>
> I'm guessing that you are referring to the signalling type of the actual
> fiber connection itself? <- as in multi mode or single mode etc.. I'm
> not confusing DSL with fiber as they are two separate technologies but
> just trying to relate to each.
Multimode and single mode are different types of fibre (different core size).
Typically need different wavelength light sources. Multimode only really
used for short distances; single mode used for anything.
You can do different types of signalling across them - the most common are
ethernet at various speeds and various types of PON (passive optical network;
a splitter/combiner sends the same light to multiple subscribers; various
speeds, GPON is quite common running at 2.488Gbps down 1.244Gbps up - the
upstream side is shared out by timeslots). Some cable providers (in the UK
including virgin media) use RFOG which is converted to an electrical signal
over coax at the subcriber side, mostly as an interim thing so they can
continue to use old cable modems etc.
> My line is a business line with a block of 8 IPv4 addresses and will
> have VoIP services to follow as I need to port my PSTN number across to
> a SIP trunk.
(btw AAISP's voip service is well priced and reasonably reliable.
Unlike what polarian thinks, I don't hate them. They are a bit overhyped,
and expensive for some services, but definitely have their uses).
>>> Some ISPs, such as virgin media, do support custom routers... sort of.
>>>
>>> They force you to pass all packets through their router, but you can put
>>> the router in modem mode and then push packets through it with a second
>>> router, but the router is still mandatory to use.
>> Virgin Media are a bit of a special case because they're mostly doing
>> cable modems and yes they do require their combined router/modem device.
>> It wouldn't really help much if they split into separate modem and
>> router anyway. And anyway they are moving to GPON (after a slight diversion
>> via RFOG to allow them to do new fibre infrastructure installs using fibre
>> before they have got proper fibre CPE ready).
>
> I would imagine Sky doing something similar as both are originally cable
> media providers. But I have never used either so....
Sky hasn't done cable (and fwiw their ISP network is fairly decent).
> For now I will see what happens with this ONT. It's the size of a dongle
> and I don't have much hope for stability but perhaps later on once it's
> installed and up and running and I have some more information from tech
> support, I can look at going my own route.
They are fine.
Don't overthink it. As they say they do pppoe and it sounds like there's
no issue with using your own router, seems like it should be fine.
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