Sunday, April 30, 2023

Re: Minimum install size

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<h2 id="Partitioning">Disk Partitioning</h2>

-OpenBSD can be installed in as little as 512MB, but using a device that small
-is something for advanced users.
-Until you have some experience, 8GB or more disk space is recommended.
+With a little extra work OpenBSD can be installed in as little as
+2GB but such a small device isn't recommended even for advanced
+users due to the effort required at every new release. Until you
+have some experience, 20GB or more disk space is recommended which
+includes room for some large <a href="faq15.html">packages</a>.

<p>
Unlike some other operating systems, OpenBSD encourages users to split their
Theo de Raadt writes:
> Yoshihiro Kawamata <kaw@on.rim.or.jp> wrote:
>
> > From: Janne Johansson <icepic.dz@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Minimum install size
> > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 09:09:49 +0200
> >
> > > Do not assume "desireable" and "possible" are always the same.
> >
> > My point was whether the wording "installable on 512MB of storage" is
> > appropriate to put in the OpenBSD 7.3 FAQ, and whether "desirable" and
> > "possible" are the same is outside the discussion.
>
> No, it is optimistic oversell by the faq authors
>
> It should be realistic & accurate, or it should say nothing at all.

To be fair the FAQ does cover itself by saying that squeezing into
512MB is "something for advanced users" and it looks like despite
the march of time that can still just about be done.

On the other hand I routinely run into problems (the obvious sort
you expect) when I allocate just 2GB for OpenBSD.

Storage is cheap and getting cheaper. I have more terabytes than I
ever dreamed could exist just ... sitting on the desk, unused. You
can fit it in 2GB or even 512MB if you really must but why? Even
10GB quickly fills up --- this workstation I'm on has 17GB in
/usr/local and that's with me keeping it trim because the machine
"only" has 128GB.

So without further ado, here's some HTML.

Matthew

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