Friday, August 30, 2024

Re: Alternative mailing lists

I will resolve this problem once and for all.

Vào Th 7, 31 thg 8, 2024 vào lúc 00:29 Anon Loli
<anonloli@autistici.org> đã viết:
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 07:58:07AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 05:03:25PM +0000, Anon Loli wrote:
> > > Hello, OpenBSD friends!
> > > Is there an alternative mailing list, or we can To and CC a bunch of people at
> > > once, I believe.
> > > The problem is that I have been censored plenty of times on @misc, @bugs and
> > > probably also @tech, and although I despise that, it's someone else's servers
> > > so what can I really do about it and should I even, right? :)
> >
> > "I have been censored plenty of times" is a very serious accusation, and one that
> > should not be made lightly.
>
> I know, I have known censorship for many many many years, and I know what
> freedom of speech is.
> I know the consequences of both, and I give myself a degree when it comes to
> this.
>
> Do not misunderstand me, I know that OpenBSD has specifically said in [1] that
> they will probably silently drop off-topic messages and subjects.
> But a lot of my messages, and even whole subjects have been silently dropped
> aka censored.
>

https://marc.info/?a=171579173100001&r=1&w=2
Look, your messages popped up on the archive. Everyone just ignore you.
Can you re-think about yourself and your behavior? Can you read the book
"Absolute OpenBSD" to understand the community more?

Your message isn't dropped, or suppressed, you are ignored by the whole
community. You make up nonsense about censorship, you are disgusting.

> For example I have posted a few times about my worries of C being replaced with
> something as obnoxious as Rust and Go, to @ports and even @misc.
> I have also given many of my reasons to the worries and have asked for other
> people's input.
>

It means no one care. Your messaged popped on the archive.
>
> > Were messages of yours removed or suppressed?
>
> Answered exactly above this.
>
>
> > Keep in mind that having your messages ignored on mailing lists is just a normal
> > part of daily life. Perhaps your issue was not interesting to others or simply
> > poorly presented, or perhaps one that is more than adequately covered in the FAQ.
>
> Not only do I have that in mind, but I have on many occasions specifically said
> myself that people who do not want to hear from me should ignore me, or even
> use functions if their e-mail client(s) have, to not even see my threads and/or
> even all of my messages.
>

Everyone ignored you, you see? The fact is, your mail popped on the archive.
> If it was poorly presented, let me tell you that I am not the only one or the
> 1st one to do that.
> In my opinion, OpenBSD has lied to us, primarily that bad manual pages are
> considered as bugs.
>

Analyzed your messages. There aren't any sign that you have read any docs.
That's my opinion.
You have the illusion that you have a genius brain. Anyone that do not
understand and satisfy you are dumbass. But you forgot that you are
an Anonymous Cowards. You speak as if a government should accept
the opinion of an anonymous cowards claiming to be talented like Kongming.

>
> > But sure, if you feel your needs would be better served by starting a mailing list
> > or other service of your own, there is nobody stopping you from doing just that.
>
> But it will do about exactly 0 of anything, if no one knows that it exists,
> hence I have started this thread.
>
>
>
> > I suspect that the effect of the message I am making the utterly poor choice of
> > following up on will be that people who would likely be able to provide valuable
> > input on any OpenBSD relevant issue you might raise will choose to filter away
> > messages from "Anon Loli" so they will not waste any time reading those pieces of text.
>
> Again, I feel like that should be the viewer/reader's choice, since it is not
> spam. Anything else is exactly that - filtering and manipulating and malforming
> someone's words or even actions.
>

But it is their choice! Almost everyone except me ignored Anon Loli.

> Which of course they have all rights reserved to, but it's a poopy move since
> they have not warned people about that.
> I would have probably not even come join the OpenBSD mailing lists would I know
> that someone would choose what I get to say and what I do not...
> I would immediately ask if there's an alternative mailing list or something
> similar like group e-mailing.

r/openbsd, openbsd guys on youtube, irc, xmpp, matrix, facebook group,
daemonforums, they are existing groups.

No need to wait for the next life, you can find another operating system
where the developers and community serves you like a god.
I think Windows or proprietary Unixes is the most qualifying options.

I hope no one will see you on this list again. Goodbye!
>
>
> [1] https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
>

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