No one here likes or appreciates your long winded rants.
No one cares if you're autistic.
Plenty of people on this mailing list have told you to leave. I don't know why you keep trying to be friendly to everyone here, as it's clearly not working.
Go find another mailing list to spam.
Sincerely,
Everyone on misc
On Wednesday, October 30, 2024, Anon Loli <anonloli@autistici.org> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 12:26:54PM +0100, Christian Schulte wrote:
> On 10/28/24 22:53, Anon Loli wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 05:35:47PM +0100, Christian Schulte wrote:
> >> On 10/24/24 03:01, Mike Larkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Every one of us who has worked in this area, at this level, has read those
> >>> 800+ page documents. Sometimes they are many thousands of pages (eg the latest
> >>> Intel SDM or latest ACPI spec).
> >>>
> >>> Tell us what you are doing and what you want to know and maybe we can point
> >>> you to the right docs, but there is no short-cutting reading the reference
> >>> manuals.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I would really like to understand why this architecture stood the test
> >> of time. Just because it boots in 8 bit CPU mode from the 70ties not
> >> even capable of beating a 6502? Just because developers were not
> >> continuously forced to throw away all knowledge and could build upon it?
> >> Seems to be the reason. Intel tried to throw away legacy burdens and got
> >> set straight by AMD. I am currently approaching page 4000 of
> >> documentation. Shaking heads. Unbelievable. What I am lacking so far is
> >> a current PCI bus specification. This seems to not be available to non
> >> members who I am certainly not. Coming from a hardware background,
> >> documents like this
> >>
> >> <https://www.intel.sg/content/dam/doc/datasheet/io- >controller-hub-10-family- datasheet.pdf
> >>
> >> clearly were a waste of time, at least when your goal is not to produce
> >> mainboards. Well. Normally you would program devices directly. It even
> >> contains write-once-by-firmware registers. It will take some time for me
> >> to understand the reasoning behind this. Not questioning there are no
> >> reasons for doing it that way. I am just trying to make me stop hating
> >> that architecture. I am still failing at this task but I would like to
> >> overcome this. At least it has linear address space. Oh. What a wonder.
> >> Every 68k had this decades ago. Oh sorry. Your comments are very helpful
> >> to me so far so thank you. Because the machine independent parts in the
> >> kernel really are abstractions of formerly machine dependent parts,
> >> understanding the worst case of those - namely x86 and amd64 - will help
> >> me understand those. I am still in the process of reading x86/amd64
> >> documentation even if it make me shake my head every so often.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> --
> >> Christian
> >
> > I just wrote a whole big-ass e-mail about how hardware has been shit for
> > decades now.
> > I do not feel like rewriting all of it right now.... it was a genius e-mail.
> >
> > I fucking hate when my e-mail client goes bananas because it's terminal based.
> > Fuck escape sequences and stupid retarded Unix.
> > When do escape sequences actually work as intended? When?
> >
> > Anyways suckless.org rocks, and should be implied to hardware.
> >
> > Open Source is Insufficient to Solve Trust Problems in Hardware
> > https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hzb37RyagCQ
> >
> > How do you know the hardware in front of you actually conforms to the hardware
> > design you might or might not have?
> > You can't, it's not like software, at least you can't with existing hardware,
> > watch the video.
> >
> > Mud towers build on mud foundation are still mud and will collapse under mud.
> >
> > This was more-less the important stuff
> > Fuck I hate re-writing emails fuck me!
> >
>
> Fuck. Ass. Genius. You maybe want to watch the Youtube Channels of Ben
> Eater [1] or James Sharman [2] for a starting point talking about
> hardware and how to build a CPU from scratch using bread boards. Fuck.
> Ass. Genius. Then start reading about what microelectronics is about or
> even get a degree in microelectronics. Fuck. Ass. Genius.
>
> [1] <https://www.youtube.com/@BenEater/playlists >
> [2] <https://www.youtube.com/@weirdboyjim/playlists >
>
> --
> Christian
Since I am autistic, I have trouble understanding when exactly someone is
making fun of me or what tone they are using, especially trough text.
For the sake of friendliness I shall assume that you said all of that in good
spirit and were not condescending.
I knew about Ben Eater for many years, I am extremely interested in
microelectronics.. I am also interested in chemistry and creating your own
transistors and stuff - silicon, etc. ... but that stuff FOR NOW is
unimportant.
Did not know about James Sharman, though.
There was a dude whomst I forgot about; he created his own RISC-V CPU and
hardware around it - motherborad, even add-in PCI-like daughterboards for stuff
like VGA and keyboard support if I remember correctly.
That computer was a intelligent multi-story, stacked tower - great design,
keeps things separated, cool-looking and organized.
And if I were to create something usable, I shall write a super ultra-simple
guide on how to do it yourself - DIY - unlike best of best manual pages *cough*
*cough*.
So almost everyone could make such a thing at their own home, perhaps not the
FPGA itself (which I plan on preferring), but everything around it?
I am unsure of the complexity of working with FPGAs - software or hardware
wise.
I admit my lack of such, but not knowing has never before stopped me from
learning, and it shall not stop you.
Like said - we have a lot of existing CPU architectures and other designs, and
we can extract the best of the best from everything, and combine everything
into something just beautiful!
Okay, I browsed the James Sharman's YT channel, and just by reading the video
titles - I got extremely excited!
The moment I read "Storage (SD Card Support)...", I remembered that there
exist web-siteS that explain how you can add support to an >>FPGA<< from
storage stuff (SD, HDD, SSD), to networking, etc., which is more valuable than
fucking gold!
Holy shit if I don't archive their web-sites and all media they have, that
stuff cannot be allowed to stop existing!!
Since I extremely-extremely love problem solving - creating and debugging
hardware ought to be fun!
I cannot wait to spent 5 hours figuring out how I missed 1 resistor or whatever
:')
Anyways - assuming you were serious and nice to me - fuck genius ass or rather
geniuses fuck good ass?
--
Anon Loli
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This mortal strives for omnisciency. Some tags: perfectionist, minimalist,
researcher, scientist, philosopher, developer, autist, anarchist, data hoarder,
99 other tags and interests.
I am always up for conversing as long as you meet these requirements:
1. Use PGP encryption for all data shared,
2. Use a open source operating system, NOT Windows, NOT MacOS,
3. Have a open mind - are ready to let go of any and all imperfect views on
anything, if they are.
Let's change this world for the better, one action at a time
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